FCAS (Future Combat Air System)

[lepanto]

Dassault corre el riesgo si se cae del proyecto de irse a la irrelevancia en materia de jets de combate, que se lo piense bien, las compras francesas no le aseguran el futuro por aparecer novedades en fabricantes y la aparición de drones.
Y ojo que eso mismo en mayor o menor medida que se lo apliquen todos.

[Karras]

Dassault, es Dassault y siempre hará mejores productos que India, que Korea y que Turquia, que por no tener no tienen ni el motor, ni el radar, y menos aún la experiencia que da años de diseño de cazas. Pakistan no ha hecho un avión en su vida, por cierto.

[ajamba]

@lepanto Lo digo y repito, ojo de aquí a diez años con los ucav autónomos con IA, cualquier bicho de estos te pega un giro de 180 grados a 12 g que no aguanta ningún piloto si no es la niña del Exorcista.

[Lazarus]

@ajamba De aqui a 12 años el dogfight sera igual de insignificante que ahora...

[ajamba]

@Lazarus Esos giros de 180 grados te pueden servir, si eres un UCAV, para esquivar misiles "beyond the horizon" o unidades antiaéreas.

[champi]

@Lazarus dijo en FCAS (Future Combat Air System):

A Francia le facturaron 1320M$ por:

(Parece que) 3 sistemas de de lanzamiento EMALS
2 sistemas de almacenamiento de energia
3 sistemas AAG (3 cables, 6 sistemas de absorcion de energia)

Esa cifra proviene de la DSCA, que suele poner cifrar más abultadas de las después contratadas. De momento toca esperar a que salga el contrato definitivo. La nota original (2021): https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-08578.pdf

(i) Prospective Purchaser: Government of France

(ii) Total Estimated Value:

Major Defense Equipment* $ .848 billion

Other $ .473 billion

TOTAL $1.321 billion

(iii) Description and Quantity or Quantities of Articles or Services under Consideration for Purchase:

Major Defense Equipment (MDE):

One (1) Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS), 2 Launcher

Configuration

One (1) Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG), 3 Engine Configuration

Non-MDE:

Also included are land-based testing and test spares; shipboard install; testing and certification support; shipboard spares; peculiar support equipment; government furnished equipment; multi-purpose reconfigurable training system; operator and maintainer training; integrated electronic technical manuals; drawings and interface control documents; technical assistance; contractor engineering technical services; and other related elements of logistical and program support.

A día de hoy solo encuentro esto (2023): https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3420757/

NAVY

General Atomics, San Diego, California, is awarded a $1,195,545,808 fixed-price incentive (firm-target), firm-fixed-price, cost-plus-fixed-fee modification (P00007) to a previously awarded contract (N0001922C0033). This modification adds scope for the production, assembly, test, and management of Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) hardware with embedded software and firmware, minus Energy Storage Subsystem and Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) System shipsets hardware with embedded software and firmware for the CVN 81 aircraft carrier. Additionally, this modification provides for resolution of EMALS and AAG hardware obsolescence issues, to include firmware obsolescence, as well as non-recurring engineering in support of evaluation and implementation of engineering changes to product hardware, software, technical data, and logistics products through the configuration management process associated with the EMALS and AAG System for the CVN 81 aircraft carrier. This modification also provides case study and developmental research in support of the potential future procurement of EMALS and AAG for the government of France. Work will be performed in San Diego, California (58.1%); Tupelo, Mississippi (40.2%); and Lakehurst, New Jersey (1.7%), and is expected to be completed in September 2032. Fiscal 2023 shipbuilding and conversion (Navy) funds in the amount $67,491,463 and Foreign Military Sales customer funds in the amount $128,376 will be obligated at time of award, none of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity.

Para saber cómo anda el contrato actualmente, USAspending: https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_N0001922C0033_9700_-NONE-_-NONE-

Anuncio previo al lanzamiento de la RFP, en el que se aclara que en vez de producirse con el CVN81 como parecía en el anterior contrato se hace en el lote del CVN82 (6/2/2024): https://sam.gov/opp/a5a3c6fafa074ede93279163f535ad6f/view

This Is a Sources Sought Announcement Only. This Sources Sought Notice is being posted to satisfy the requirement of Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement (DFARS) 206.302-1(d) and PGI 206.302-1.

The Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) is seeking eligible business firms who can produce up to three (3) quantity Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) and up to three (3) quantity Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) shipsets, in support of United States CVN 82, the Future French Carrier, and potentially United States CVN 83. Supplies and services to be procured through the contract actions include the manufacture, assembly, integration, test, delivery, storage, installation checkout parts and support and certification of the EMALS and AAG shipsets and the associated overall program management, schedule updates, technical data updates.

The efforts will also include associated configurations changes, primarily obsolescence, and will include engineering (design definition, verification, test and reports); integrated logistics support and updates; and manufacturing and installation of forward-fit solutions. Provisions will also be provided for retrofit kits, and/or new complete items, associated NRE, validation and verification of technical directives and associated logistics impacts, prototype testing, test plans and reports, computer software, manufacturing acceptance tests and fielding support, hardware storage, and ship-riders provisions for operational support. The anticipated procurement will not include the Energy Storage Subsystem (ESS).

También interesante este futuro contrato de mantenimiento (27/11/2024): https://sam.gov/opp/ac4e04349b7f4df6beb0346fa3d9b5ec/view

The Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) intends to negotiate and award a Cost Reimbursable five-year ordering period Indefinite Delivery Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Contract sole source to General Atomics, San Diego, CA, for sustainment support of the Ford Class carriers and the Future French Carrier for the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) and Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG). Task and delivery orders are anticipated to be issued for engineering, configuration management, Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS), logistics support, technical support, In-Service Support, Product support, and Life Cycle Sustainment of the EMALS and AAG systems aboard the Ford-class nuclear powered aircraft carriers and the Foreign Military Sales French Future Carrier.

The following Product and Service Codes (PSC) will be applicable under the IDIQ:

K017 - Modification of Equipment- Aircraft Launching, Landing, and Ground Handling Equipment

J017 - Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding of Equipment: Aircraft Launching, Landing, and Ground Handling Equipment

1710 - Aircraft Landing Equipment

1720 - Aircraft Launching Equipment

AC34 - National Defense R&D Services; Defense-Related Activities; R&D Administrative Expenses

7650 - Drawings and Specifications

N017 - Installation of Equipment: Aircraft Launching, Landing, and Ground Handling Equipment

H117 - Quality Control Services: Aircraft Launching, Landing, and Ground Handling Equipment

L017 - Technical Representation Services: Aircraft Launching, Landing, and Ground Handling Equipment

H270 - Equipment and Materials Testing: Automatic Data Processing Equipment (Including Firmware), Software, Supplies and Support Equipment

[ajamba]

Estas cosas me hacen recordar que Spain está, en transparencia, entre Arabia Saudita y Corea del Norte.

[chema]

@Karras
Pakistan ha vendido a Azerbaiyan 40 aviones JF-17 III hace 2 meses que es una ampliación de los 16 que había pedido el año pasado.

También los había vendido, de las versiones anteriores, a Malasia y Nigeria.

Todavía hay gente que cree que Europa es el ombligo del mundo.

[Karras]

El JF-17, por mucho que digas, es una versión hecha a petxas con los chinos. es decir, el avión es chino y Pakistan fabrica los suyos y China lo llama FC-1, pero el invento es chino, no pakistaní. Seria como decir que el churro es español.
Te dejo el enlace de la wiki donde te pone donde voló el primer prototipo.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu/PAC_JF-17_Thunder

[chema]

Es decir lo mismo que Italia, Alemania, UK, España con el EFA. La diferencia es que Pakistan fabrica el avion , monta lo que quiere y lo vende hoy. Espera 15 años y veremos que hacen, mas o menos el tiempo que se tardara para poder vender un NGFo similar