Sistemas antiaéreos - SAM
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Y mi pregunta: Cual es el que queremos ? Y el que necesitamos ?
Por lo que he leido, y si no lo entendi mal, el PAC-2+ es mas orientado a defensa ABM, y el PAC-3+ a defensa antiaerea / misiles de crucero.
Necesitamos el PAC-2+ ? Y de ser asi, no tendria sentido tambien SM-6 para AE, a mismo fin y efecto ?
Y el PAC-3+... son necesarias tantas baterias, despues de haber renovado los NASAMS hace no mucho ?
Que no tienen el mismo alcance pero... tambien cuestan mucho menos, o sea, por la misma inversion se podrian obtener mas. -
Si nadie me corrige.... hay tienes un fallo de base, la actualización a pac3+ no te impide seguir utilizando los misiles del pac2 (lógicamente al revés si, un pac 2 no puede trabajar con los misiles del pac3). Incluso es muy común ver en un mismo lanzador módulos distintos para poder disparar los 2 misiles, en el mismo lanzador, no digo ya distintos lanzadores en la misma batería.
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La evolución del NASAMS, Iris-T y AIM-9X
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@frapu dijo en Sistemas antiaéreos - SAM:
La evolución del NASAMS, Iris-T y AIM-9X
Hace tiempo que andaban con pruebas para poder trabajar con ellos, a nosotros poder hacer un mix de aim-120 e iris-T nos daría mucho juego, y si no recuerdo mal decían que a futuro se podía estudiar implementar el meteor.... pero esto me parece mas difícil.
Un paraguas sam con patriot pac3+ com misiles pac2 y pac3 mse. Seguidos de nasams con aim120 C/D e Iris-T. Eso ahora mismo es top mundial (debidamente actualizado, y con números adecuados)
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Que opinais de los sistemas Isrelis, jugando a 3 niveles de defensa aerea: Iron Dome / Barak MX / David's Sling ?
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Que opinais de los sistemas Isrelis, jugando a 3 niveles de defensa aerea: Iron Dome / Barak MX / David's Sling ?
@Lazarus dijo en Sistemas antiaéreos - SAM:
Que opinais de los sistemas Isrelis, jugando a 3 niveles de defensa aerea: Iron Dome / Barak MX / David's Sling ?
Si alguien sabe de guerra moderna y asimétrica en los últimos años son ellos.
Los hebreos tienen una cobertura SAM muy respetable, desde CRAM/CRPAS con IRON DOME, hasta el Davids Sling, pasando por la familia BARAK.Su burbuja de la "cebolla" en AA es muy buena.
Aqui yo echo ya en falta algo superior a PATRIOT, que cada vez las municiones se lanzan desde mas lejos y si el ataque es de saturacion, no tenemos nada que hacer, salvo que tengamos una F100 en zona (cerca de costa)con los pozos llenos. -
"Tridon Mk2, Artillería Antiaérea con cañón de 40mm sobre camión": https://www.defensa.com/otan-y-europa/tridon-mk2-artilleria-antiaerea-canon-40mm-sobre-camion
Tridon Mk2m solución antiaérea montada en un cañón para favorecer su movilidad. Foto: BAE Systems -
Artículo muy completo sobre los CAMM: https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2022/11/common-anti-air-modular-missile-camm/
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El US Army comienza el desarrollo del 155mm como arma antiaérea: https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/army-news-2024/us-army-initiates-development-of-155mm-anti-aircraft-artillery-system
US Army Multi-Domain Artillery Cannon Program (Picture source: US Army)Por aquí la RFI: https://sam.gov/opp/cb63719cd3b24d4294fe3bc74405bb06/view
The Army Rapid Capabilities and Critical Technologies Office (RCCTO) is seeking information on potential sources that could provide the necessary technical skills, facilities, tooling, and personnel to support prototyping a complete Multi-Domain Artillery Cannon (MDAC) prototype consisting of a wheeled self-propelled 155 mm weapon system and HVP-compatible propelling charge solution. Responses must clearly demonstrate technical qualifications, capability, and experience to provide a prototype MDAC solution with battery-level prototype deliveries no later than Q4FY27 followed by an Operational Demonstration (OD) in FY28. Upon the conclusion of the OD the prototype will be delivered to soldiers as a residual combat capability. Assumption for contract award is 3QFY25.
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a. Current air and missile defense munitions require onboard guidance and targeting components that drive high munition procurement costs. In contrast, the MDAC seeks to significantly reduce munition costs and enhance expeditionary utility by developing a 155 mm artillery cannon-based air defense system capable of firing Hypervelocity projectiles (HVP)s, integrated into a wheeled platform. The HVP will communicate with off-board sensors that track both the HVP and the threat and complete the interception of the target. The MDAC will interface with an external GFP Command and Control Battle Manager (C2BM) and the Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS).
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No se RICK, pero me parece que sera otro programa por querer abaratar municiones y al final acabara siendo mas caro que la misma munición a sustituir.
PD : Ya esta firmado los PAC3 MSE, parece que va rapidita la cosa. Sera por el enviar lo antes posibles una PAC2 a Ucrania.
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MBDA desvela en Farnborough su nuevo MANPAD en desarrollo para el ejército italiano: https://newsroom.mbda-systems.com/mbda-new-manpads-vshorad-solution-unveiled-at-farnborough-2024/
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Mientras Israel saca del depósito todos los Vulcan retirados que puede volver a poner en servicio.
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Una batería "completa" hawk a Ucrania
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SM-3 Block IIA para EEUU y Japón (25/7/2024): https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3850293/
Raytheon Technologies, Tucson, Arizona, is being awarded a sole-source, hybrid (fixed-price incentive and cost-plus-fixed-fee) contract for $1,944,082,765 to perform the manufacture and assembly of Standard Missile-3 Block IIA All-Up Rounds for the U.S. government and Japan Ministry of Defense (JMOD) Foreign Military Sales (FMS) case requirements. The work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona; and Huntsville, Alabama, with an expected completion date of Feb. 28, 2031. Fiscal 2023 and 2024 procurement, Defense wide funds in the amount of $583,732,034; and $383,265,085, respectively, will be obligated at time of award. JMOD FMS funds in the amount of $308,451,327 will be obligated at time of award. The Missile Defense Agency, Dahlgren, Virginia, is the contracting activity (HQ0851-24-C-0001).
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Se rumorea tras la publicación de un informe reciente que las fuerzas armadas holandesas están mostrando un creciente interés en adquirir el sistema de defensa aérea móvil de corto alcance NOMADS desarrollado por Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace. Esta iniciativa podría ser parte del contrato existente con Noruega y expandir la presencia del sistema entre los aliados de la OTAN. Los holandeses planean comprar hasta 18 vehículos NOMADS, con nuevos afustes para aumentar la capacidad de misiles en comparación con la configuración noruega que se equipa con dos contenedores de lanzamiento, cada uno con dos misiles.
El módulo NOMADS es independiente del vehículo y se puede montar en cualquier vehículo que cumpla con las dimensiones y la carga útil requeridas, y está totalmente integrado con NASAMS y otros sistemas de la OTAN a través de Link 16, lo que permite operaciones autónomas y en red con dos o más vehículos.
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Y para el ET indispensable, ayer no mañana.
Rheinmetall bietet Skyranger für die USA an
Der Düsseldorfer Rüstungskonzern Rheinmetall hat sein Flugabwehrkanonensystem Skyranger den US-Streitkräften angeboten.
hartpunkt - Monitor für Defense und Sicherheitspolitik (www.hartpunkt.de)
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Nota DSCA para la posible venta de PAC-3 a Alemania: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/germany-patriot-advanced-capability-3-missile-segment-enhancement
WASHINGTON, August 15, 2024 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Germany of PATRIOT Advanced Capability-3 Missile Segment Enhancement Missiles and related equipment for an estimated cost of $5.0 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Germany has requested to buy up to six hundred (600) PATRIOT Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) Missile Segment Enhancement (MSE) missiles (includes ten (10) fly-to-buy missiles). The following non-MDE items will also be included: tools and test equipment; range and test programs; support equipment; associated publications and technical documentation; training equipment; spare and repair parts; new equipment training; transportation; quality assurance team support; U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance, engineering, and logistics support services; systems integration and checkout; field office support; participation in the International Engineering Services Program and Field Surveillance Programs; launcher modification kits; MSE conversion kits; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $5.0 billion.
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Eficiencia de la capacidad antiaérea ucraniana según Clash Report: https://x.com/clashreport/status/1825933694479090049
Statistics: Report of the General Staff of Ukraine on the effectiveness of air defense.
— Total missiles launched by the Russian Air Force/Armed Forces: 9,627
Total missiles shot down: 2,857
Efficiency 29.68%
— Total UAVs launched by the Russian Air Force: 13,997
Total UAVs shot down: 9,272
Efficiency 66.24%
— Missile kill efficiency:
Kinzhal: 25.23%
Kalibr: 49.55%
Kh-101/555: 78.06%
Onyx: 5.69%
Iskander-K: 37.62%
Kh-35: 6.67%
Kh-22: 0.55%
Iskander-M, KN-23: 4.31%
Zircon: 33.33%
Tochka-U: 8.82%
Kh-25/29/31/35/58/59/69: 22.17%
S-300/400: 0.63%
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Nota DSCA para la posible venta a Noruega de AMRAAM-ER: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/norway-advanced-medium-range-air-air-missiles-extended-range
WASHINGTON, August 22, 2024 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Norway of Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles–Extended Range and related equipment for an estimated cost of $405 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Norway has requested to buy one hundred (100) Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles-Extended Range (AMRAAM-ER) and four (4) AMRAAM AIM-120C-8 guidance sections. The following non-MDE items will also be included: AMRAAM containers and support equipment; spare parts, consumables, accessories, and repair and return support; weapons software and support equipment, and classified software delivery and support; transportation support; classified publications and technical documentation; training equipment and support; studies and surveys; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $405 million.
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Nota DSCA para la posible venta a Noruega de AMRAAM-ER: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/norway-advanced-medium-range-air-air-missiles-extended-range
WASHINGTON, August 22, 2024 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Norway of Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles–Extended Range and related equipment for an estimated cost of $405 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Norway has requested to buy one hundred (100) Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles-Extended Range (AMRAAM-ER) and four (4) AMRAAM AIM-120C-8 guidance sections. The following non-MDE items will also be included: AMRAAM containers and support equipment; spare parts, consumables, accessories, and repair and return support; weapons software and support equipment, and classified software delivery and support; transportation support; classified publications and technical documentation; training equipment and support; studies and surveys; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $405 million.
@champi
Es cosa mía o soy el único que piensa que la empresas de defensa están subiendo los precios de manera abusiva?
