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Manas ha dejado de ser una base de apoyo al combate para convertirse e un punto de tránsito de material no-militar por 1 año.
"The U.S. military contingent at the Manas base will leave the republic by August 18," said Kabai Karabekov, deputy head of the Kyrgyz parliament's international committee
"This is no longer a military airbase, the coalition soldiers must leave now. The dismantling of the base infrastructure can begin," said Kabai Karabekov, a lawmaker from the country's ruling Ak Zhol party
"This is nothing more than a corridor for transit," he added, speaking after Thursday's ratification vote
Allí estaban, allí siguen y veremos a ver hasta cuando.
Te vuelvo a preguntar, ya que pasaste de puntillas sobre ello, cómo crees que estaría USA si Rusia tuviera una base en, pongamos Tijuana.......
Publicly, the Kyrgyz government is saying that the US military can continue to use Manas only as a resupply center for non-military goods. But observers in Bishkek believe that coalition forces will also continue to fly refueling operations out of Manas for combat aircraft on missions over Afghanistan.
Mars Sariev, a Bishkek-based political analyst, suggested the only changes at the base will be cosmetic in nature, such as a new name. The facility, according to Sariev, is being restyled as the "Transit Center at Manas International Airport."
"They are just changing the format of the base, but the essence of it will be the same as it was before," Sariev said. "It will still be a base for military and non-military goods."
Paul Quinn-Judge, the Bishkek-based Central Asia project director for the International Crisis Group, said he could not envisage the US agreeing to anything without the refueling component.
"The United States would be very unhappy if their Stratotankers were not allowed operate out of Manas. One would have to assume they want to keep the air base open for other operations," he said.
In mid-June, Afghan President Hamid Karzai also lobbied Bakiyev to keep the Americans at Manas.
Back in February, Bakiyev's original decision to terminate the Manas lease came just hours after Russia offered Kyrgyzstan a $2.15 billion aid package, prompting many Central Asian political analysts to see a quid-pro-quo connection between the two developments. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. Since February, Russia's economy has been battered by the global economic crisis, a fact that may have prompted Bakiyev to reevaluate the wisdom of basing Kyrgyzstan's financial future on the Kremlin's fiscal goodwill.
The turnabout is a victory for the Obama administration as it seeks to step up operations to quell the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan.
The Kyrgyz and American governments both said the new arrangement would put limitations on the base. But neither side could point to any significant ones, and it seemed as if the agreement was written to offer the Kyrgyz government a face-saving way to undo its earlier decision.
For example, the base is to be renamed a transit center, as opposed to an air base. And the Kyrgyz will control security around the base; currently, American military personnel do. The text of the new agreement specifies few other restrictions on how the United States can use the base. There do not seem to be any prohibitions on shipping weaponry.
Some Kyrgyz politicians said the new arrangement was just cosmetic.
“I think the base will remain, but only under a different name,”said Bakyt Beshimov, leader of the opposition Social Democrats in Parliament. “Substantively, nothing is changing.â€
According to the text of the new agreement, United States personnel and contractors can transport “any kinds of personal belongings, equipment, supplies, materials and technologies”into and out of Kyrgyzstan.
Supplies will be exempt from inspection or licensing by the Kyrgyz government, the agreement says.
The Ear In The Sky
July 15, 2009: The U.S. Air Force EC-130H Compass Call electronic warfare aircraft, originally designed to jam Soviet anti-aircraft defenses, has proved to be a crucial weapon in Afghanistan. That's because the EC-130H is also equipped to eavesdrop on cell phone and other radio communications, and selectively jam them. The EC-130H has space on board for linguists, who can listen to the radio traffic below, and decide who to just record (and perhaps immediately report to U.S. troops below), and who to jam. Because Afghanistan has limited land-line phone systems, especially in the countryside, the Taliban, and everyone else, relies on cell phones, walkie-talkies and ham radio type gear to communicate. The EC-130H can detect all of these, and jam them selectively.
The Taliban know of these aircraft, but never know when there are operating near them. This forces the Taliban to either use their cell phones and radios sparingly, or use code words (which the U.S. can usually decipher, or just jam) or not use electronic communication at all. The latter choice makes it more difficult for the Taliban to operate against Afghan and NATO forces.
The U.S. has only 14 EC-130H aircraft, and they spend most of their time over Afghanistan. In the last three years, these aircraft have flown 1,300 sorties (300-400 a year, each 6-8 hours long), and they are considered a valuable tool by ground commanders. But only the most crucial ground operations get EC-130H support. The use of these aircraft has increased greatly in the last three years. For the first five years of the Afghan campaign, the EC-130Hs flew only 700 sorties (140 a year). The U.S. Army also has some two engine electronic eavesdropping aircraft. But these are not as well equipped as the air force EC-130Hs, but the army is sending more of them to Afghanistan.
Air Force Reserve aerial porters work with maintainers to load a UH-60L Blackhawk rescue helicopter into a C-17 Globemaster III at Manas Air Base, Kyrgyzstan
charly015 escribió:Por cierto, estamos a 16 de Julio y la fecha que tú mismo subiste es 18 de Agosto ...seguro que lo recuerdas
UN SALUDO
PD. Mira que curioso, a Kazashtán le parece bien una "2ª base rusa" en Kirguizistán.
No se opone y da la bienvenida al fortalecimiento de la seguridad en la región según la cita del Ministro de Exteriores Kazajo en RIA Novosti
PD2. Mira que si los aviones para llevar la carga hasta el punto de tránsito son rusos...te imaginas
"The U.S. military contingent at the Manas base will leave the republic by August 18," said Kabai Karabekov, deputy head of the Kyrgyz parliament's international committee
"This is no longer a military airbase, the coalition soldiers must leave now. The dismantling of the base infrastructure can begin," said Kabai Karabekov, a lawmaker from the country's ruling Ak Zhol party
"This is nothing more than a corridor for transit," he added, speaking after Thursday's ratification vote
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