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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor Dell el Jue Ago 06, 2020 5:04 pm

Un articulo de mi autoria, espero que sea del agrado de vosotros.

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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor JRAP20 el Jue Ago 06, 2020 6:04 pm

Dell escribió:Un articulo de mi autoria, espero que sea del agrado de vosotros.

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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor champi el Jue Ago 06, 2020 7:15 pm

Dell escribió:Un articulo de mi autoria, espero que sea del agrado de vosotros.

Felicitaciones por el artículo, muy interesante y ameno.

Sin embargo, tengo mis dudas de esto: http://www.fav-club.com/2020/08/06/hist ... enezolana/
Delso López Lugo
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En el trascurso de la Guerra Eritreo-Etíope, los Sukhoi Su-27SK etíopes obtuvieron con el R-27R, dos derribos confirmados de MiG-29 y reclamando a un tercero
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Consultando la revista Air Forces Monthly de agosto de 2000 y esta otra fuente: https://www.webcitation.org/5nDhCzUZj?u ... _189.shtml
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With the re-appearance of the EtAF fighters over the battlefield, it became clear to the Eritreans and their Ukrainian instructors, that they would have to fight down the newly-arrived Ethiopian Su-27s, or the ERAF would not be able to effectively support the war effort. Therefore, on the morning of 25 February four MiG-29s were sent to intercept two Su-27s which were patrolling along the front-lines at Badme. Both Sukhois, flown by Ethiopian pilots, detected the appearance of their opponents in time and attempted to disengage, when - all of a sudden - they came under an attack by several R-27/AA-10 missiles. None of the weapons fired by the Eritreans which were meanwhile inside the Ethiopian airspace hit, but after evading them, the Ethiopians decided to turn back and fight. The lead, Maj. Workneh, acquired the enemy and fired what was reported as a "salvo" of R-27s, targeting one MiG-29 after the other. However, all the missiles missed and the only result was that the Eritreans were forced to break their attack - only to be pounced by the faster Su-27s. The result of following dog-fight was one Eritrean MiG-29 shot down, probably by an R-73/AA-11 IR-homing, short range air-to-air missile (fired again by Maj. Workneh). The ERAF fighter came down near Ethiopian Army positions. The fate of the pilot, rumoured to have been the commander of the Eritrean Air Force, Brig. Gen. Habte Zion Hadgu, was not reported by either side. Like his deputy, Col. Abraham Oqbaselassie, Hadgu used to be a EtAF MiG-23-pilot during the Derg regime. He was never again mentioned in the public, but was apparently replaced by Maj.Gen. Teklay Habteselassie, who remains Commander-in-Chief ERAF until today.
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En este derribo, Air Forces Monthly no coincide, ya cita que los Su-27 se retiraron y quien realizó el derribo fue una pareja de Su-22, también con R-73. En el resto es prácticamente el mismo relato.

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Only 24 hours later, a new - but highly interesting - engagement developed over the Badme area. This time, a lonesome Su-27S, reportedly flown by female pilot Capt. Aster Tolossa, was escorting several MiG-21s on a strike mission, when a single aircraft was detected, closing from the direction of Asmara. Capt. Tolossa turned to intercept and identified the target as an - apparently unarmed - Eritrean MiG-29UB. After some manoeuvring, during which there was some kind of communications exchange between the crew of the MiG and the Sukhoi, the Ethiopian was high at enemy's 6 o'clock, when she realized that the pilot of the aircraft in front of her was her former instructor. Capt. Tolossa immediately warned him that she was about to shot him down, and requested the Eritrean to land at Debre Zeit. He disobeyed, and Tolossa pulled the trigger. Exactly which weapon was used this time remains unknown, but it is highly likely that the Ethiopian used at least two air-to-air missiles, both of which were evaded, and then finished the target with 30mm gunfire. The Eritrean pilot was certainly experienced enough to evade two missiles, and he also knew who and where was the enemy. While it remains unknown if anybody ejected from that MiG-29UB, it is certain that Capt. Tolossa was given a hero's wellcome back at her base; with right, then she was the first female fighter-pilot to show down an enemy fighter-jet in the history of air warfare.
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De nuevo, el mismo relato. Eso sí, en la publicación británica se apunta al disparo de nuevo de R-27, y no se menciona a la piloto (dato un tanto polémico).
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Couple of days later, a further clash between Ethiopian Su-27S' and Eritrean MiG-29s was reported, in which supposedly two MiGs were shot down. Again no better details are known about this air battle, except that quite a number of air-to-air missiles were fired without any hits.
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Este derribo se menciona también en Air Forces Monthly sin más detalles.
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After the initial attack, the EtAF support was crucial: a large number of sorties was flown by helicopter gunships and strike aircraft in order to keep the Eritreans down and preventing their counterattacks against exposed flanks of advancing Ethiopian units. Not only MiG-21s, MiG-23s and Mi-35s were used, but also newly acquired Su-25, one of which was claimed as shot down by an ERAF MiG-29, on 15 May 2000. The pilot. Flt.Lt. Wondu Ghenda was killed. The Russians originally delivered four Su-25UBKs to Ethiopia, all of which had advanced avionics and night-fighting as well as capability to deploy precision-guided ammunition (PGM).
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En este caso los británicos citan el derribo pero no especifican ni el avión que disparó ni el tipo de misil.
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Even MiG-29s were deployed in air-to-ground sorties, and seen harassing Ethiopian ground forces several times: one of two incoming MiG-29s were intercepted by EtAFs Su-27s, however, and it seems that another air battle occurred. This was a situation which the Eritreans and the Ukrainians wanted to prevent when they started the fight for battlefield air superiority a year earlier, by challenging Ethiopian Su-27s: they wanted to prevent a situation in which ERAF aircraft would not be able to attack Ethiopian troops on the ground because of the presence of Ethiopian interceptors in the air. Such concerns proved right as during this battle at least one MiG-29 was damaged sufficiently to crash-landed at Asmara, obviously after being damaged by R-27. The ERAF remained stubborn: only two days later, two MiG-29s were scrambled to intercept an incoming formation of EtAF MiG-21s. The leading Eritrean pilot missed with his R-27s, but then shot down at least one of Ethiopian fighters, using the 30mm gun during a short dogfight. Nevertheless, only minutes later, the same MiG-29 was in turn intercepted by a pair of EtAF Su-27s. As the Sukhois engaged, one of them collided with an Africa Buzzard (a very large bird), and had to return to base after sustaining heavy damage. The other Sukhoi flown by one of former Derg-pilots continued, engaging the MiG and shooting it down by a single R-73.
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En este caso, Air Forces Monthly solo cita el combate entre MiG-29 y Su-27, y dice que uno fue derribado y que el otro fue dañado en combate por un R-27, por lo que se estrelló al volver a su base.

Las conclusiones tienen algo de corta-pega:
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Very interesting were also clashes between Ethiopian Su-27S' and Eritrean MiG-29s. Besides taking out four Eritrean MiG-29s - plus writing another off due to damage received from an air-to-air missile - Ethiopian Su-27s flew many strike missions against the Eritrean ground forces, using unguided rockets and "dumb" bombs, and also escorted almost all MiG-23 deep strikes into Eritrea. Interesting is also, that most - if not all - Eritrean MiG-29s were shot down in close-quarters turning dogfights, where MiGs were supposed to have some advantages over larger and heavier Sukhois. Finally - except one - all the air-to-air kills were reportedly scored by R-73, even if quite a few (up to 24) R-27s were fired, pointing to some possible problems with R-27s, which is otherwise highly praised by quite a few air forces around the world! Supposedly, there should be no significant differences between early and new - or domestic and export - versions of R-27s, however, it seems, that this type so far has a worst combat record than even US Vietnam-era AIM-7Es or AIM-7Fs! This was certainly no good news for the Russians, which were keen to try out their new mounts and weapons under conditions of conventional warfare, and against a well organized enemy.
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Air Forces Monthly:
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Recopilando, tan sólo un derribo por R-27 contra MiG-29.

Un abrazo.
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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor Dell el Jue Ago 06, 2020 7:39 pm

champi, vale, gracias por las acotaciones y observaciones.

Las fuentes son variopintas.

Igualmente habia leido como una de las fuentes que traes, que la efectividad de los R-27 no fue del todo satisfactoria en ese conflicto.

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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor JRAP20 el Jue Ago 06, 2020 8:17 pm

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Re: Aviación Militar Venezolana

Notapor JRAP20 el Jue Ago 06, 2020 8:18 pm

Dell escribió:champi, vale, gracias por las acotaciones y observaciones.

Las fuentes son variopintas.

Igualmente habia leido como una de las fuentes que traes, que la efectividad de los R-27 no fue del todo satisfactoria en ese conflicto.

Saludos cordiales,

Efectivamente en la guerra etiope/eritrea el desempeño de las primeras versiones del R-27 fue pobre, el R-73 fue mucho mas efectivo
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