EF-2000 EFA Eurofighter Typhoon

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Notapor Tercio norte el Sab Ene 05, 2019 12:42 pm

Y por tamaño de la entrada de aire (ademas con la apertura superior) y en general del aparato, parece lógico pensar en un b2, pero que ademas es mucho mas pequeño.
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Notapor eco_oscar el Sab Ene 05, 2019 2:18 pm

Feliz año a todos.
Pues claro que no hay punto de comparación, el neuron es mucho más pequeño, sin derivas, ni medios de emisión de ondas electromagneticas como las de un radar, firma IR muy baja, etc......Vamos que también al F35 se le mete hasta la cocina y como no, el radar lo tiene que llevar sin emitir porque sino se descubre, extremo este que al EFA se la trae floja. Ah....y eso esperando que pueda estar en el aire después de necesitar 36 horas para cambiar su motor. Por dios....
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Re: EF-2000 EFA Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Sab Ene 05, 2019 8:33 pm

Hola eco! Y como dices, no hay punto de comparación. Y aparte, no os fiéis de lo que diga el confidencial digital.
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Notapor ModeJu el Sab Ene 05, 2019 8:37 pm

Efectivamente, no hay que creerse la noticia al 100% porque hay muchos intereses. Lo que deseo, es que se termine y tengamos algunos de ellos y no pasar por el aro americano para que luego nos limite el uso.
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Re: EF-2000 EFA Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor eco_oscar el Dom Ene 06, 2019 11:44 am

Orel escribió:Hola eco! Y como dices, no hay punto de comparación. Y aparte, no os fiéis de lo que diga el confidencial digital.


Saludos Orel.

Sí, creo recordar que fué el confidencial quien se hizo eco de la noticia de que solo teníamos 6 Ef2000 disponibles, en una época que teniamos unos 40 entre los 14 de Albacete y 26 de Morón. Además cuando ya sólamente en Los Llanos comenzaba a verse tandas de despegue de 6 aviones, 2 veces en la mañana, variando indicativos de aviones. Vamos que como mínimo de 14 habia 8 operativos.....en aquellas fechas. Hoy día ya tenemos 30 en Albacete y 36 en Morón.
Ciertamente el confidencial no creo que sea el médio periodistico más sagaz.....jejeje

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Notapor Orel el Dom Ene 06, 2019 12:39 pm

Y el mismo medio que también dijo en su día que nuestros Eurofighter tenían tres fallos críticos que poco menos que impedían su operación. Creo que eran uno relacionado con el asiento, otro con la cúpula y otro no me acuerdo. Y hablé con pilotos y me explicaron que era amarillismo puro, como luego se publicó también. Por eso, credibilidad muy baja. ¡Nos leemos Eco!
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Notapor champi el Mar Ene 08, 2019 7:38 pm

Resumen de las operaciones de los Efas británicos en Oriente Medio, mes de noviembre: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/upda ... inst-daesh
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On Sunday 4 November, a flight of :arrow: Typhoon FGR4s used two Paveway IVs to crater a road near Hajin, lest Daesh attempt to move truck-bombs along it to hold up the Syrian Democratic Forces’ advance. The SDF meanwhile came up against four Daesh defensive positions in the area; these were all struck simultaneously by Paveway IVs dropped by Tornado GR4s through heavy cloud. The following day, Tornados were tasked with the destruction of a pair of buildings, to the east of Hajin, which Daesh were using as an operating base and command post. Each of the buildings received a direct hit from a Paveway IV.

:arrow: Typhoons patrolled the Hajin area on Wednesday 7 November. A terrorist observation post was identified to the north-east of the town, and destroyed using a single Paveway. On Saturday 10 November, a further :arrow: Typhoon patrol was directed to attack a large building in Hajin, which had been confirmed to be a Daesh logistics facility and a supposed “safe house” for their extremists. A careful check was made of the surrounding area, and then, there being no signs of civilians nearby, two Paveway IVs were guided onto the target.

A Daesh compound, which included an observation post keeping watch on the advancing SDF, was identified several miles to the north-east of Abu Kamal on Monday 12 November. A pair of Tornados attacked the compound with three Paveway IVs and successfully destroyed their targets within. Further assistance was rendered to the SDF on Thursday 15 November by a :arrow: Typhoon flight, which bombed in turn three Daesh positions on the banks of the Euphrates, north-west of Hajin. The following day, a Daesh armed truck was reported to be firing to the north of Hajin; :arrow: Typhoons responded, and destroyed it with a direct hit from a Paveway IV. The Typhoons were then directed to a ruined building, next to a road, within which the terrorists had been spotted hiding a truck-bomb. A second Paveway was used against this target, producing a large explosion which confirmed that the truck-bomb had been successfully detonated before any civilians or SDF had been placed in danger.

On Friday 23 November, Syrian Democratic Forces attacking Daesh positions to the north and north-east of Hajin came into contact with several groups of terrorists in the open desert. Two Tornado GR4s and :arrow: two Typhoon FGR4s provided close air support to the SDF; a blanket of cloud covered the area, but close coordination with the SDF and the precision of the Paveway IV bombs allowed our aircraft to conduct strikes through the cloud on seven Daesh targets, all successful, despite the often close proximity of the SDF to the enemy. Two Daesh armed trucks and a heavy machine-gun position were amongst the targets reported by the SDF to have been hit. Similar close support was provided on Saturday 24 November, when the continuing difficult weather conditions did not prevent a flight of :arrow: Typhoons from striking five groups of terrorists caught in the open, and a Tornado reconnaissance mission hitting a sixth.
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Re: EF-2000 EFA Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mié Ene 09, 2019 12:57 pm

Para quien no duerma si no lee algo más confirmando la participación española en el AESA:
Noticia sobre la participación de Indra en todos los nuevos PEAs, incluida la modernización del Eurofighter. Principalmente en sistemas clave como el radar AESA (E-Scan) y el DASS, y también en la incorporación del MIDS versión BU2 (que también hacemos en nuestros T1), en la integración del pod LDP de última generación (¿Sniper?) y en la actualización del simulador de vuelo de la plataforma (PSTS). Recuerda que Indra también está en el radar AESA Prisma 25X de la F-110.
https://www.infodefensa.com/es/2019/01/ ... noles.html
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Notapor champi el Jue Ene 10, 2019 9:40 pm

Resumen de las operaciones de RU sobre Oriente Medio en diciembre: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/upda ... inst-daesh
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No further targets required prosecution by RAF aircraft until Monday 3 December, when the SDF encountered Daesh positions a couple of miles to the north of Hajin. A pair of Tornados supported them, delivering two attacks in rapid succession. The first attack simultaneously targeted an armoured bulldozer and a group of Daesh in the open; although dropped through cloud, both Paveways were reported by the SDF to have struck their targets accurately. The same was true of the Paveway IV released shortly afterwards in the second attack, against a tunnel in which a number of terrorists were concealed.

On Wednesday 5 December, :arrow: Typhoons supported an SDF advance north-west of Hajin. The SDF came into contact with two Daesh positions, but heavy cloud gave the terrorists no protection and both targets were successfully struck with Paveway IVs. :arrow: Typhoons conducted a further strike in the same area the following day, accounting for a further terrorist position.

A Tornado flight was directed onto a group of terrorists, along with a number of vehicles, north-west of Hajin, on Friday 7 December. Once again, persistent cloud complicated the attack, but a Paveway IV was guided accurately onto the group and their vehicles. North of Hajin, the SDF reported being in a firefight with two Daesh defensive positions; :arrow: :arrow: Typhoons worked closely with the SDF to eliminate the threat from both targets, hitting them with Paveways. Two more Daesh positions nearby were bombed by :arrow: Typhoons on Saturday 8 December. On Sunday 9 December, :arrow: Typhoons used a single Paveway IV to destroy a Daesh-held building on the northern outskirts of Hajin.

With the SDF having now advanced into Hajin itself, a Reaper provided prolonged close air support to them on Monday 10 December. Its crew conducted three attacks with the Reaper’s Hellfire missiles against Daesh terrorists engaged in often close-quarters combat with the SDF, and provided surveillance support to four attacks by other coalition aircraft. These included attacks by a pair of :arrow: RAF Typhoons which destroyed two Daesh strongpoints. Another Reaper continued to support the SDF on Tuesday 11 December; its crew identified a group of Daesh with small arms and rocket-propelled grenades, firing at the SDF, and engaged them with a Hellfire missile. The Reaper’s crew then observed another group of terrorists repositioning after a firefight with the SDF, and caught them in the open with a second Hellfire. Meanwhile, a coalition surveillance aircraft had identified a Daesh mortar team operating under cover of trees, and was able to direct the Reaper onto this target, which was successfully attacked with a GBU-12 guided bomb.

Reaper support to the SDF continued into Wednesday 12 December. Several terrorists were spotted in a treeline, and successfully targeted with a GBU-12. The Reaper’s crew then observed extremists loading a truck with weapons and ammunition; they and the vehicle were struck with a Hellfire missile. Two more Hellfire attacks were carried out during the patrol, one hitting a group of terrorists firing at the SDF, the other striking a number of terrorists as they held a meeting behind the front line. Tornados were also active over Hajin, as the SDF advanced ever further into the town, and they carried out a successful attack with three Paveway IVs against a Daesh operating base.

Tornado and :arrow: Typhoon flights provided close air support to the SDF as they fought to clear Daesh from areas of eastern and southern Hajin on Thursday 13 December. Very close coordination was required between our aircraft and the SDF since the latter were engaged in close-range combat with the terrorists; two attacks by the Typhoons accounted for five Daesh defensive positions, whilst three attacks by the Tornados dealt with a further four terrorist strongpoints.

On Friday 14 December, with the main town of Hajin reported to be largely liberated, a Reaper supported the SDF as they consolidated their control. Its crew conducted two successful attacks with Hellfire missiles against groups of terrorists observed south of the town. To the south-east, Tornados meanwhile assisted the SDF as they advanced down the main road towards Abu Kamal; Paveway IVs were used to eliminated a Daesh sniper team and a strongpoint, as well as cratering a road to prevent the terrorists moving up truck-bombs to attack a newly liberated area. :arrow: Typhoons also provided close air support to the SDF, conducting attacks which struck six Daesh strongpoints, all of which had been firing on the SDF, as well as an armoured ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft vehicle.

The SDF continued to push south-east from Hajin on Saturday 15 December: a Reaper supported a coalition airstrike, then employed Hellfire missiles to engage three groups of terrorists, including one group loading weapons and equipment onto a truck. A GBU-12 guided bomb was also used to target terrorists who were sniping at the SDF from a building. Tornados also patrolled the area, and bombed a Daesh position south of Hajin. The following day, a Reaper spotted a large group of extremists advancing towards the SDF. The Reaper helped disrupt this attempted attack with a series of three Hellfire and one GBU-12 engagements – among the targets struck was a light machine-gun team firing on the SDF – and also provided surveillance support to other coalition aircraft. A second Reaper worked with a pair of :arrow: Typhoons over a nearby area; the Reaper struck a number of Daesh with a Hellfire, whilst the Typhoons conducted two attacks, hitting four Daesh-held buildings.

:arrow: Typhoons conducted further attacks south-east of Hajin on Monday 17 December. The SDF advance ran into a series of Daesh defensive positions, but in the course of three separate Paveway IV attacks, the Typhoons were able to strike accurately through heavy cloud to hit five Daesh-held buildings, as well as a group of terrorists caught in the open. In each case, the weapons had to be delivered with great care and precision given the proximity of the SDF to the targets, with which they were engaged in firefights.

Royal Air Force aircraft have continued to fly daily armed reconnaissance missions over eastern Syria in support of the Syrian Democratic Forces offensive against Daesh around Hajin, as well as lending assistance when requested by the Iraqi security forces to prevent the terrorists from regaining a foothold within the country.

With the SDF pushing south-east from Hajin, Tornado GR4s provided close air support on Wednesday 19 December. The SDF encountered a truck-bomb concealed inside a building, and took cover whilst the Tornados dealt with the threat. A single Paveway IV guided bomb, on target, allowed them to continue their advance. Further support was rendered on Friday 21 December by a Reaper and another flight of Tornados. The Reaper’s crew successfully used a Hellfire missile against a small group of Daesh as they moved across country, whilst the Tornados destroyed two workshops which were producing improvised explosive devices. The following day, a Reaper spotted terrorists manning a heavy weapon and engaged them with a Hellfire which scored a direct hit. The Reaper then provided surveillance support to a coalition air strike on a Daesh-held building nearby. Tornados were also active south-east of Hajin, conducting Paveway IV attacks which destroyed a heavy machine-gun position and two other Daesh strong-points.

Further targets were identified on Monday 24 December, when Tornados, as ever supported by a Voyager air refuelling tanker, bombed two terrorist-held buildings in the path of the SDF advance. With Daesh continuing to lose ground, it was necessary to prevent them moving men and equipment, most particularly their favoured truck-bombs, along a road towards the SDF; a pair of :arrow: Typhoons cratered the road with Paveway IVs on Wednesday 26 December. The Typhoons then joined a Tornado flight in destroying three Daesh-occupied buildings: the Typhoons dealt with one target, the Tornados struck the other two. The Tornados remained on station to provide further assistance if required by the SDF, and subsequently attacked a further two buildings from which the terrorists were firing. On Thursday 27 December, :arrow: Typhoons bombed two more buildings held by Daesh, whilst Tornados hit a third.

Coalition aircraft remain available to support the Iraqi security forces as and when required, to ensure Iraq remains free of Daesh. Intelligence established that a terrorist stockpile of weapons was concealed deep in the western deserts of Anbar province, and two Tornados were tasked with its destruction on Friday 28 December. This was accomplished using a pair of Paveway IVs. A number of terrorists were meanwhile tracked to tunnels hidden beneath an extensive palm grove some twenty miles north of Baghdad; :arrow: Typhoons carried out a successful attack, again with two Paveway IVs, against the tunnels and the terrorists within.

A destacar la destrucción de un ZSU-23-4 el viernes 14 de diciembre y la subida de la intensidad de las operaciones.
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Notapor champi el Vie Ene 11, 2019 7:55 pm

Parece que RU acabó por fin de integrar el programa Centurión: https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... perations/

En total $540 millones para integrar el Meteor, el Brimstone y el Storm Shadow.

Por su parte, Kuwait abre una investigación sobre la compra del Eurofighter y del H225M: https://www.janes.com/article/85634/kuw ... rocurement
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Notapor Orel el Vie Ene 11, 2019 8:24 pm

para integrar el Meteor, el Brimstone y el Storm Shadow.

"Fundamentalmente para", pero no únicamente. El culmen del programa Centurion (P1E FW, más P2E, más P3E), como todas las PXE, tocan siempre todos los softwares del avión y algo de hardware. Es decir, mejoran todo: sensores, comms, interfaz... Lo digo para que la gente no se quede con el error de pensar que sólo es añadirle algún arma.

- Aparte, la RAF está también introduciendo en el Typhoon el chaff activo BriteCloud de Leonardo (expendable active decoy, EAD). El año pasado lo hicieron de urgencia en el Tornado. Recordad: no es señuelo remolcado (towed radar decoy, TRD).
"BriteCloud is a 55 mm diameter second-generation expendable digital radio frequency memory (DFRM) jammer designed to provide fast jet aircraft with effective 'end game' protection against advanced RF-guided missile threats and/or tracking radars."
La combinación del DASS con sus ECM internas, sus señuelos remolcados y encima ese chaff activo es lo máximo:
https://www.janes.com/article/85668/bri ... ntegration
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Notapor Orel el Lun Ene 14, 2019 9:38 am

Kuwait investigará las adquisiciones de EFAs y helicópteros H225: https://www.infodefensa.com/mundo/2019/ ... h225m.html
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Notapor champi el Lun Ene 14, 2019 11:16 pm

El consorcio Eurofighter va a proponer su avión como sustituto de los Hornet de Canadá: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 18-455004/

Si todo va como se espera, las entregas comenzarían en 2025, lo cual deja fuera de juego a este avión. No entiendo por qué tienen que gastar tiempo y dinero en promocionarse en un país en el que no tienen a penas oportunidades y que ni si quiera el calendario les permite presentarse.
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Notapor Orel el Mar Ene 15, 2019 8:46 am

Champi, la última entrega actualmente se espera en 2023. Pero hace un tiempo Eurofighter GmbH y BAE ya comentaron que si vieran opciones de exportación, podrían dejar abierta alguna cadena (la inglesa) en espera algún año. Como ya hicieron con el Tornado y les salió bien.
Y tampoco es algo nuevo: sin contar el F-35 del que son socios, el EFA lleva ofertándose años en Canadá, como también el Rhino, el Gripen y el Rafale. Es más, en una evaluación técnica de esos cuatro hecha por Canadá en 2006 (sin vuelos), quedaron Rhino y EFA, descartando los dos últimos. Aunque se han vuelto a presentar todos.
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Re: EF-2000 EFA Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor alejandro_ el Mar Ene 15, 2019 8:40 pm

Si todo va como se espera, las entregas comenzarían en 2025, lo cual deja fuera de juego a este avión. No entiendo por qué tienen que gastar tiempo y dinero en promocionarse en un país en el que no tienen a penas oportunidades y que ni si quiera el calendario les permite presentarse.


Parece que la oferta va dentro de un paquete que incluye colaboración en otros segmentos, como satélites.
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