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bandua escribió:...
de todas maneras, esta noticia como otras que hemos ido leyendo (F35 eliminado, límite presupuestario, F15SE ganador...) sirve para poco más que opinar en el foro. hasta que se firme el contrato y empiecen las entregas todo puede pasar.
nos das muy pocas oportunidades como esa...
dacer escribió:bandua escribió:...
de todas maneras, esta noticia como otras que hemos ido leyendo (F35 eliminado, límite presupuestario, F15SE ganador...) sirve para poco más que opinar en el foro. hasta que se firme el contrato y empiecen las entregas todo puede pasar.
Ehh, que empece la noticia diciendo:
Hay que agradecer lo entretenido que son los concursos para compras de material, al menos en asia:
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Orel escribió:Y lo último, es bastante más de lo que sabía, que efectivamente ya era mucho. De los que citas el único que se acepta más o menos generalizadamente que es algo más furtivo es el Rafale (pero limpio total, porque no cuenta la ausencia de estaciones semiconfirmales ni sus depósitos externos mayores). El SuperHornet similar y el Silent Eagle menos furtivo.
Un saludo
hay quien dice que el SH con bodegas internas externas es tan furtivo como el F35 y con el F15 SE parecido...
Would you be offering Canada the tranche two airplane or the tranche three airplane?
Virtually there is no difference in terms of hardware except from the progressive cure of obsolescence. In terms of capability, there is no difference between tranche two or tranche three aircraft. Of course, all newly built aircraft will have to be tranche three.
the fly-away cost of a Typhoon today it's in the 120 million euro area?
The fly-away price? That's far too high, more than 10%.
Even if you're not able to offer exactly what that cost is, knowing what you know--what the cost is of the F-35--are you saying you can match that cost?
I can only comment on the cost figures for the F-35 that I have read in the literature. It's clear that we can match and significantly improve those figures with the Eurofighter platform.
As for the number of jobs concerned, the final assembly line in itself doesn't create too many jobs, because the process is quite automated. The number of people who actually work on the final assembly line is not what makes the difference. However, if we think about the number of high-level engineering jobs that can be created by the activities involved in integrating a specific weapon or a specific capability that may be required by the Canadian industry, this number would be very significant.
Suppose the value of the contract were $7 billion, would your company be willing to guarantee $7 billion in economic benefits to Quebec and to Canada? [100% de retorno económico]
The answer is yes. Maybe you can comment on the recent declaration by Austria.
Austria was our launch export customer, and they received an offset of 200% on their airplane. Most of it has been realized already.
A couple of weeks ago the Austrian government accepted $2.3 billion in offset requirements from the Eurofighter consortium. There's more to come. This is for a 15-year contract.
Is the Eurofighter better in an air-to-air role than the F-35?
In terms of air defence itself, I am absolutely convinced that the Eurofighter is the superior airplane, surpassed only by the F-22, which is unavailable to all of us.
Typhoon proved surprisingly reliable achieving a 99% availability rate, somewhat higher than the considerably more mature Tornado. The number of ground crew per aircraft for Typhoon was only 70% that of GR4. In over 3,000 flying hours there was only a single Typhoon engine change and that was precautionary after ingestion of some debris from an AAR drogue — the engine turned out to be undamaged.
It was notable that both Tornado and Typhoon went through the campaign without a single urgent operational requirement (UOR) being raised; they were able to cope with a demanding operation using the systems and weapons already provisioned. The cost of UORs is often considerable
12 de julio de 2012: http://aerosociety.com/Assets/Docs/Publ ... rFinal.pdf
polluelo escribió:¿Solo un 70% menos de gente que en el Tornado?
Pues vaya novedad.
Siempre has dicho, polluelo, que no es posible que un caza más complejo sea más fácil ni barato de mantener, totalmente lógico y obviamente concuerdo. Y el Typhoon es más complejo que p.ej. F-18 y F-16.
Y no os fijéis sólo en eso, si no en su tasa de disponibilidad en conflicto, que por cierto siempre ha sido lo que han destacado más.
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