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Orel escribió:

NO TENEMOS UN DURO.

Eso recuerdo siempre. En cuanto a cazas en el futuro a medio plazo, o ninguno o alguno más de lo que ya tienes. Otra cosa no se contempla por eso.

By Pierre Tran
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That funding overspill from industry compares to an initial Franco-German budget of €4 billion by 2025 for development of a new generation fighter jet in the FCAS project, with France contributing €2.5 billion, according to the French armed forces ministry, Reuters reported.
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On the FCAS project, Cambon said a new fighter program would cost €25 billion, which called for cooperation as such a budget was outside the reach of France acting on its own.

Barre said there remained two factors to resolve before launching work on a technology demonstrator for the new generation fighter.

“The first element is organizing the entry of Spain into the program,” he said. That required finding a “good compromise” to avoid a delay in the prototype and should be reached before an Oct. 16 Franco-German ministerial council meeting on defense and security.

The Spanish defense minister, Margarita Robles, signed June 17, the opening day of the Paris air show, a framework agreement to bring Spain into the FCAS program, led by France and Dassault, and partnered with Germany and Airbus D&S.

The second, more sensitive, element lay in appointing Safran as prime contractor on the engine program, with MTU Aero Engines as industrial partner, Barre said.

The industrial responsibilities should be clearly set out, in contrast to the engine on the Airbus A400M airlifter, he said. There are talks between Safran and MTU to accord program leadership to the former to ensure balance in the work assigned to the companies.

There would be a resolution following talks with the companies and between the companies, he said, adding the “highest political level” would resolve the situation if needed. The French and German ministers would meet Oct. 9 to discuss organization of engine production ahead of the bilateral ministerial council meeting the following week, he said.

In France, the DGA, backed by the government, negotiates with industry, and talks to the German counterpart, the junior defense minister, he said. In Germany, industry has “a very powerful role” in decision-making.

The German political side is complex, with the government seeking consensus between three or four parties, and powerful oversight by the Bundestag parliament, two French defense executives said. On the French side, the president holds political power.
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FCAS Demonstrator will likely not look like the final fighter - will be based on COTS tech to make first flight of 2026

Milites escribió:El dinero, que por cierto todavía no hemos puesto un duro ni esta establecida la oficina del proyecto, aunque es un debate perdido y desértica predica, estaría mucho mejor gastado (y esa es la palabra, no invertido) en dárselo a nuestro querido amigo y socio especial, que nos acaba de poner unos aranceles por el morro con pérdidas iniciales de más de 1.000 M y esta financiando y equipando a nuestro antagonista, más de 4.000 M de ayuda militar desde 2016.

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